Bush Using Gay Marriage To Cover Up Mishandling War & Economy
I suppose I could also call this entry something like, "Those who live in glass houses"...
In a speech frequently interrupted by applause, Clinton warned gays not to discount the efforts of Senator Frist and others who are supporting the amendment. Then, in a departure from her prepared remarks, she said of those who like to use wedge issues like the marriage amendment, “They have led our country miserably! They deserve to be turned out of office and they’re going to look for anyway to stay in power!” Story.
Wasn't it her husband Bill Clinton who originally tried to change military law by allowing gays to be able to serve in the military openly without having to worry about being kicked out? When several Senators stood in the way of that happening, it was Bill Clinton who settled on the miserable "don't ask, don't tell" policy. And here we are many years later still living with it.
Hillary can stand on a podium and talk about how bad the Bush Administration is (which it is) all she wants, but there is one undeniable fact that will always be there: Bill Clinton was a wolf in sheep’s clothing to the gay community. Was he really a friend? What the hell did he do for us while he was President?
To me, everything that politicians say has the weight of a grain of sand. I do worry about the likes of Senator Frist though. He and his kind really only want one thing, for us to just go away. Short of that, he will settle on passing laws to the point that we are as invisible as possible.
Other issues... JC Penny and FedEX have added Sexual Orientation to their non-discrimination policies.
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Congratulations Dan on your 10 years! That's wonderful! :-)
I think marriage is our ultimate final battle for equal civil rights. It will not be an easy battle and it will get ugly before it's over. In fact, there will always be those in society who will hate us for what they feel we have done to marriage once we achieve full marriage rights (and we will!).
The fact is, marriage has already been reduced to nothing. Where were all the people who want to save marriage from the queers when game show contestants were actually playing for who would win the game and therefore marry the man. Yes, there was an actual game show where the grand prize was choosing which man you would marry.
Now I ask you, what the hell can gay people do to marriage that hasn't already been done?
Like I said, they can keep their damn lable of "marriage" if that's why they have their shorts in a bind. The 1,000+ federal rights and the 588 state rights associated with "marriage" is what I'm after!
After marriage is achieved, "don't ask, don't tell" will fall fast, if it's still in place.
I agree with you about Clinton wholeheartedly!
As a matter of fact, what most people don't know, which I kept of telling on telling people back in 1992, is that Clinton in the very first democratic debate, attacked presidential candidate Paul Tsongas for his pro-gay stance!
As for gay marriage, that is what we need, not domestic partnerships. Yes, the institution is a mockery, but still there are both gay and straight couples that will benefit this institution and this institution will benefit them.
I'm 33 years old. My partner and I have been together in a loving, monogamous, wonderful relationship for the past 10 years.
We want to be able to fill out any document as any other (straight) married couple does.
Dan
I'm sure that many in the gay community don't see the need for marriage. Perhaps a lot of that is the misgivings that many have for religion. Religion has, after all, been rammed down our throats. It has been used to "keep us in our place", so to speak.
My own opinion is that marriage as a "religious institution" has little merit. There is so much hypocrisy in religion, that I too have little use for religion itself anymore. If that was where it ended, I would be happy to leave marriage alone. Unfortunately, for those of us in relationships, there are many rights and privileges afforded to marriage. In my mind, when that started happening, marriage ceased to be a "religious institution" and became a civil issue.
I would be perfectly happy to leave the label "marriage" behind and have them call gay relationships "civil marriages", or even "domestic partnerships", AS LONG AS WE WERE GIVEN ALL THE CIVIC RIGHTS AND PRIVILEDGES OF MARRIAGE AS IT NOW STANDS.
Whatever you think of marriage, it says little for the gay community if we are happy to take what we can get and be happy with being treated as second-class (if that) citizens. We have every right to demand equal civil rights. It just so happens that those equal civil rights are attached to something called "marriage".
i have little regard for the instituation of marriage in the 'straight' community...i can't see a point for it among us gay men. It's an institution I can't respect. I 'm not the only one in this.