Massachusetts Supreme Court gives gays marriage rights!
Well, not really. Sorry folks, but we really don't have anything yet, other than Vermont. And, let's face it, Vermont is a pitiful excuse for marriage. Once you leave the state, it's null and void. It's not recognized at all by the federal government. It is simply an attempt to give us lip service to shut us up.
If you read the news articles or look on the internet, they make it sound as if Massachusetts is the first state in the nation to grant gay and lesbian citizens the right to marry. That is not true.
The high court said that it was "unconstitutional" to deny gays the right to marry, based on the Constitution of the State of Massachusetts. Then, instead of allowing the marriage licenses to be handed out, they turned the case back to the legislature to deal with. They gave the legislature 180 days to complete the task of allowing gay and lesbian citizens to get married.
A lot can happen in 180 days. A watered-down version of marriage can be handed down that is separate and less than equal to full marriage. Of course, this too would not be valid in any other state. There really is no equivalent to marriage.
Or, the legislature will try to amend the state constitution specifically defining "marriage" as being solely between "one man and one women". There have already been suggestions made to do this. Then, of course, the high court would no longer be able to say it was "unconstitutional".
The fact of the matter is this; we had better get used to the idea that there are people out there who hate our guts. They disguise and justify their contempt for us. They are priests, nuns, bishops, rabbis, pastors, ministers, associates, colleagues, and others. They will stop at nothing to put us in our place in society.
They have never and will never accept the fact that we deserve equal rights and opportunities in all areas of life in this nation. They will never accept that we have the right to pursue happiness and to make our lives everything that we can. They will never honor our relationships that we have to each other.
Now, the battle line has been drawn. We got their attention today, not only in Massachusetts, but in Washington, D.C. as well. You can be sure that a renewed effort will be made to amend the United States Constitution to define marriage at the federal level, thereby voiding all same-sex marriages in all states (should any state approve gay marriage in the future).
Traditionally, the federal government has given the states full authority over their marriage rights. But, of course, faggots and dykes will be the exception of this rule.
I'm mad as hell. I'm mad because it is so fucking insulting and repulsive to me that this is even an issue. We love each other. People, all people, need to fucking get used to it. Does anyone else feel the same way? Where is the outrage in our community?
We are the Rosa Parks of our time. All of this is happening because where our relationships are concerned, we have finally said loud and clear, "We will no longer ride in the back of the bus! We are just as good as anyone else!".
This is terrifying to many. Who do we think we are? To the people who are terrified at the thought of two gay people getting married, we were the "queers", the "faggots", of their time. In their youth, there were no "gay people". We were "degenerates" who were to be pitied, cured, beaten, and murdered, for amusement's sake. The crimes were rarely pursued by law enforcement because we "brought it upon ourselves" by being queer. This is the same generation who is trying their best to prevent the queers from perverting marriage. I would suggest they've done a great job of that themselves.
There's no easy way to say this. We will probably not have full marriage rights in this nation until most of that generation dies off. Thankfully, the younger generation seems to find it in their hearts that they may allow us to have marriage.
Should we even ask for it? I say no. We should DEMAND IT!
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I agree with you we should demand our rights we should not spend tidiest time hoping for small advances we should get everything we want now, but because we are so small the chances are slim. Now going to your comment, "We will probably not have full mariage rights in this nation intil most of that generation dies off." The only way to get rid of a way of thinking is to delete all all persons and records pertaining to that way of thinking.
Well, the good news is that 180 days will come and go quicker than a state constitutional amendment can happen. I heard that once the amendment is approved, it has to go to the voters. I also heard that the soonest that could happen would be 2006. So, between the time the 180 is up to 2006, how many marriage licenses would be issued to gay couples that would have to be resended because of the constitutional amendment?
I think it would be an act of cruelty to take away marriage licenses that had already been issued.
I was listening to a talk show on the radio this morning on my way in to work. They were talking about gay marriage. They were joking around with it and making fun of it as if it was completely nuts to even consider, as though it would be the end of society as we know it. What they don't understand is that we are just people. That's all. Just like them. We aren't asking for anything weird. We are asking to have protections for ourselves and our families that marriage offers. It would be a celebration of the love our families have.
I can't for the life of me understand why that is so hard for them to understand.
Well, Bill, I had been a little excited until I read this, but you're right. It's not 180 days to make laws to allow us to marry, it's 180 days to rewrite the constitution so that it's no longer unconstitutional to deny us.
Someday we're either going to have equal rights or we're going to have them lost forever. The way I see it, there are still going to be homosexuals now matter what they do, so I reamin slightly hopeful.
As for that poll, I don't trust people in large groups as far as I could throw them. They are stupid and no one really wants to be outside the majority. Choosing to be gay? Old hat. I like the way you put it, though. Very well done.
I was watching the news yesterday and they had an interesting viewer email about how being gay isn't a big deal, it's a genetic anomoly like being left handed, and that people shouldn't discriminate against us since it's all a part of nature. I thought back to elementary school and the scissors we needed to use. I don't know if you remember, but they were tiny scissors with green plastic handles. My best friend was left handed and we didn't have any lefty scissors. So the art teacher spent a while searching through boxes and found a pair of lefty scissors that had red plastic handles. The rest of the class was jealous because they wanted red scissors. It's funny, if I had come out then, could I have asked for gay scissors? With purple handles?