My Issues with Idaho

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This from my home state of Idaho...

Supporters of a proposed state constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage in Idaho are giving the issue another try this year, with a new conservative group called the Idaho Values Alliance leading the charge.

“The signal that we’ve gotten from legislative leadership on the house and senate side is they’d like to see an amendment go forward,” said Bryan Fischer, executive director of the Boise-based group. [...]

Legislative attempts to pass a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage have failed the past two years. A constitutional amendment must pass the house and senate by at least a two-thirds majority and win approval from the governor before being placed on the general election ballot.

Last year the Idaho senate blocked a measure that would require the state to recognize only marriages between one man and one woman. That measure also would have banned civil unions, which grant gay couples the legal rights and benefits of marriage.

Idaho already has a 1997 law banning same-sex marriage, but Fischer and other supporters say the amendment is needed too. He noted that in Washington State, the state supreme court is considering a challenge of Washington’s 1998 ban on same-sex marriage. “Because Washington State does not have a constitution that protects marriage, the state supreme court there may well issue a ruling any day now that would provide for gay marriage,” Fischer said. (source)

Yes, I know.... get over it Bill. Idaho is a hick state with “good ole boy” values, which doesn’t hold up much value for queers. OK! I get it. What I don’t get is the notion of people being so damned frightened of people like me wanting to commit to someone. Would they rather that we go to public parks for quick sex and go from sex partner to sex partner? Is that what they would prefer? I suppose they would rather hold on to the idea that we are sick perverted freaks than see us as people who want to get the most out of life that we can - just like THEM!

It’s people such as Gerry Sweet of Meridian who said that allowing gays to marry would fail to “protect marriage” and would “destabilize society.” Sweet adds, “We are under attack. The family is under attack. This issue is not about somebody’s chosen behavior. We’re not debating morals on the floor of this Senate. We’re debating the stabilities of families and the stability of society.”

In response to that, Boise Democrat Mike Burkett said, “There is no attack and at the very least there is no attack by gay couples simply trying to live a life of commitment and purpose.” (source)

So, it would seem that there are both sides of the issue in the Idaho legislature. Let us hope that enlightenment and reasoning will win the day. We still can’t get married there and gay couples living in Idaho have absolutely no legal protections at all. I know that gay couples live all over the United States. I would venture to say that, when they start getting older (50+ years), they start to look at moving where they will have more stability in their lives in terms of legal protections. It only makes sense. Not all will, but many, like myself, will start to worry about what protections you will have when you are most vulnerable.

It saddens me and makes me sick to think of what the actions of some have done to us, and want to keep doing to us. The way some of us have had to live our lives in the past is really a crime against humanity.

4 Comments

Bill said:

I agree with you Mary. There are people out there in every state. I also think that what happens in Idaho will depend a lot on what happens in the neighboring state of Washington.

The Washington State Supreme Court will issue a ruling shortly on the constitutionality of denying same-sex couples a marriage license. If the majority of that court rules that same sex marriage must be allowed, then Idaho might very well go into panic mode. You see, unlike Massachusetts, Washington States does not restrict couples from other states from obtaining a marriage license. So, Kent and I could travel to Washington State, return to Connecticut, and demand that Connecticut honor our marriage. Connecticut would most likely refuse, but it would give us a prime opportunity to sue for the right of marriage. Presumably, the same would happen in Idaho as well.

I do feel that my original comment needs just a bit more of a fine point put on it. I do think that there are times that a divorce if warranted, such as spousal abuse. And, by obtaining a divorce under those circumstances does not, in my opinion, add to the current condition that marriage has been put in by reckless heterosexual couples who get married without thinking it through. Spousal abuse is another issue from marriage and should be treated as such. Just my opinion, for what it's worth.

mary said:

It's very unfortunate that there are people like this out there, but as I say every time you write something about Idaho specifically, these people are out there in every state. These same people (Gerry Sweet, in particular) tried to get something very similar on the Idaho ballot last year, and failed. The reality is that there are hateful people out there, that hate anyone who isn't just like them. All we can do is try to make sure that this minority doesn't usurp the rights of the majority.

Bill said:

In my opinion, ANYONE who has had a divorce (even once) or is seeing someone on the side (even once), has forfeited their right to say ANYTHING about preserving the "sanctity of marriage".

If that were enforced in law, how many would be left standing? Well, the divorce rate in this country is around 55%. Probably 90% of that 55% (at least) were due to marital infidelity. Now, let's take the 45% who are still successfully married. Probably 80% of that 45% are seeing someone on the side, but their spouse just doesn't know about it.

I'm not making a judgment here. I'm pointing out a lot of hypocrisy in the "sanctity of marriage" argument from gay marriage foes. It's all too easy to point to the gays and say that they are going to destroy the "sanctity of marriage", when what really needs to happen is that a lot of straight married folks need to get their shit together and clean up their act.

I'm tired of being used as a scapegoat for why marriage is in it's current state, when my community did nothing what so ever to put marriage in that situation in the first place. How many people arguing against marriage equality for gay couples would fight for the right to be married as we are doing? How many simply take their marriage for granted? I would venture to say that figure is up around 98%.

Dave said:

Yea, and I'd bet if the "Idaho Values Alliance" restricted membership to :
1) Never divorced
2) Never cheated on spouse or steady
3) Never paid for sex
It would sure be interesting to see how many members these paragons of virtue could muster up. Sure would be fun to have those numbers.

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